AUDIO: "October Baby" Activist Explains How to Deceive Women

It's bad enough there are so many men who feel justified trampling on the rights of women, but it's the women who really frighten me. Their fanaticism far outreaches any thing I've seen or heard from their male counterparts. Don't these women understand that their rights are compromised every time they try to force a belief, or aid in passing a bill, that limits (other) women's choices? They don't seem able to step back from the emotional, personal and religious aspects of these issues, and realize that the suppression of one right may lead to the subjugation of ALL rights? Abby probably believes she's an "activist" today, but tomorrow someone may decide she talks too much. Her right to free speach may be the next item on the political right's agenda in this "War on Women."

Why, indeed, do so many women oppose elective abortion? I think women are even more opposed to it than men, some of them very vehemently. Could it be that abortion is not the blessing its promoters thought it would be, and that women really don't want it after all? Could it be that they see 'choice' in this case, not as a means of exercising their freedom responsibly, but as a chance to duck the responsibilities they incur when they create a new life? Ducking responsibility is not something which, in the long run, will appeal to either men or women.

Joanne, there's a big difference between choosing not to have an abortion and preventing someone else from choosing to have one. Take responsibility for yourself, not for others.

Yes, Peg, there is a difference between choosing NO
T to kill someone and preventing someone else from killing someone. They have, however, one thing in common. They are both right. The slogan 'if you don't like abortion just don't have one', but leave everyone else free to have one, does not work with regard to abortion any more than with regard to slavery. There is a grave injustice involved in elective abortion. If we ignore injustice it infects not only those who practice it, but also those who standby and watch it happen. It's not rocket science. History is replete with examples of it.

The CPC I am familiar with is very careful to not mislead women. They are upfront about not providing abortions and are very factual in regard to the information they provide. Women are not coerced at any time, in any way. They are loved, however, and supported with any and all help that they need to continue their pregnancy. They are also provided with loving help if they are trying to heal from a previous abortion.

The problem here lies with the assumption that everyone has the same religious beliefs and ethics. That is not the case. Some of you who are opposed to abortion on religious grounds fail to see that not everyone believes as you do, and your arguments carry no weight with them. Others do not feel the same ethical impulses, for a variety of reasons, upbringing and religion being but two of them. The government should never base decisions affecting everyone based on the concerns of a specific group. It defeats the purpose of government "by the people, for the people."

Just because having children makes some happy does not make others happy. One shouldn't assume everyone should have kids- if that was true, no poor child would be abused, molested, neglected, or murdered.

I did not have premaritial sex.
I took birth control RELIGIOUSLY.
I know how to do things RIGHT.
Yet I still got pregnant.
I live every day with the regret of NOT having an abortion. Adoption was not an option for me- I think it is worse to bring a poor baby into this world and abandon your responsibility.

I am not God and cannot say if life begins before birth. But there is something about quality of life versus being pro-birth.

These "crisis pregnancy centers" (that name says it all)only encourage women to carry their pregnancy to term if they also give them up for adoption. They quickly get nasty if a young woman wants to actually keep the child. These centers are nothing but lead generators for the adoption business.

These "crisis pregnancy centers" (that name says it all)only encourage women to carry their pregnancy to term if they also give them up for adoption. They quickly get nasty if a young woman wants to actually keep the child. These centers are nothing but lead generators for the adoption business.

Let's see, joanne believes: 1)abortion is wrong, 2) people who have abortions are "ducking responsibilities," and 3) then compares elective abortions to slavery. What deck is she playing with? Thank you, Shootmyownfood for pointing out that there are different religions and points of view. We do not all have to agree, but we should all have the right to choose what we believe and how we act. No one has the right to jam a set of beliefs or their personal ethics down someone's throat or deceive them into doing something other than what they what to do. Let's hope "joanne" doesn't one day find that she cannot speak out for her beliefs without being fined or arrested for those beliefs. This is a free country. Let's keep it that way.

I have another thought. Last year my own daughter discovered that she had an ectopic pregnancy. Note the second word: PREGNANCY. Would you condemn her for terminating this pregnancy because there might be a rare chance that the fetus would grow and survive? "With rare exceptions, ectopic pregnancies are not viable. Furthermore, they are dangerous for the mother, since internal haemorrhage is a life-threatening complication." Most likely not, but I can't be sure because of your questionable choice to compare abortion to slavery.

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