McCain Picks Anti-Choice Palin
Sen. McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. And wow, is she anti-choice!
From our press release:
"John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate proves just how rigid and extreme his administration would be when it comes to a woman's right to choose," NARAL Pro-Choice America president Nancy Keenan said. "For 25 years, McCain has opposed a woman's right to choose, and we know that he will continue to push anti-choice policies in the White House. McCain's pick of anti-choice Sarah Palin is further evidence that his White House will be just another four years of Bush-style policies. Any remaining doubts about McCain's extreme anti-choice position should be put to rest when voters learn about the combined anti-choice records of Sarah Palin and John McCain."
Palin, a member of the anti-choice group Feminists for Life, said during her campaign for governor that she is opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape or incest. [Juneau Empire, "Abortion Draws Clear Divide in State Races," accessed 8/29/08 and Anchorage Daily News, "Governor's Race: Top contenders meet one last time to debate," 11/03/06.]
More about Palin's extreme anti-choice views coming soon!

Sarah Palin may be a bit inexperienced, but I think she makes a fine choice for VP. News outlets have been drawing attention to the fact that she gave birth to a child with Down's Syndrome, Trig, despite societal pressure to abort babies deemed "inconvenient." She talks the talk and walks the walk when it comes to being a strong, PRO-LIFE American. As a mother of 5, she shows a tremendous amount of selflessness and responsibility, and I look forward to seeing her serve as Vice President.
The fact that you people call someone who holds pro-life views "anti-choice" shows what extremists you are and shows how you have no understanding of mainstream America. You support an evil practice.
Sarah Palin is a great example of what America needs. She may be young but she has a lot of energy and she is going to be around for a very long time. Get used to pro-life voters, we are not going away!
Go McCain-Palin!!!
Naral, YOU went with THE MAN!
You could have backed Hillary but you stabbed her in the back.
You have nothing to teach us about feminism.
I'd like to write the first anti-Palin commercial. If anyone wants to make one based on this, go right ahead.
Picture: A young teenage girl with a sad and frightened look on her face:
Voiceover: (woman's voice, warm, solid but intensely concerned.) She's 16. She's a victim of incest. She's pregnant. She had no choice about becoming pregnant. Saran Palin wants her to have no choice about remaining pregnant. (Image shits to a door with "Reproductive rights center" over it. The door is boarded and chained shut with a sign nailed to it that reads "Permanently closed by government order." A couple large men in black body armor and chrome visors stand at the sides of the door holding assault rifles.)
New image: A professional woman, well dressed, possibly a doctor or lawyer. Angry look on her face.
Voiceover: She's 35. She's a victim of rape. She's pregnant. She had no choice about becoming pregnant. Sarah Palin wants her to have no choice about remaining pregnant.
Image shifts to the same door with the same sign and guards.
New image: Paris Hilton lookalike. Happy look on her face. Voiceover:"She's 24. She got pregnant at a sex party. She could have used protection but didn't. She can take a plane to a foreign country and end her pregnancy whether or not it's legal in america because she's rich."
Voiceover: "If John Mccain is elected Sarah palin will take over as president when he can no longer carry on. Sarah Palin wants to outlaw a woman's right to choose in all cases, including rape and incest. Sarah palin will appoint radical anti-choice judges to overturn Roe V Wade and take away women's rights to choose.
Image of the paris hilton lookalike getting onto a private jet. Voiceover: Rich women will still be able to choose to end unwanted pregnancies by going to foreign countries.
Image: The first two women shown, now standing in a bleak, gray chamber. Voiceover: For the rest of american women, choice will disappear and pregnancy will become a prison. Image: Women's clothes morph into prison maternity uniforms as prison cells materialize around them.
Voiceover and black and white print: Sarah Palin: Anti choice. Anti freedom. Do you want her one heartbeat away from the presidency?
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I hope someone does this as a commercial. It'd be worth it to hear the republicans squealing in outrage.
Wow Stan, you cleverness astounds! Yes, refer to the
Will there be protests at the RNC? If so, I'd like to be there. We need to keep abortion safe and legal. No backroom abortions with coat hangers.
Sirena, are you ever troubled by saying "we need to keep abortion safe and legal?" It's just blatantly absurd because abortion is anything but safe for the baby. It's like saying "We must make sure women are safe and comfortable while they act as accomplices to murder." It's taking a weapon and killing an unborn human, but hey, let's keep it safe and fun and free while we're at it and maybe the woman should get a gold star afterwards.
Stan,You should do a rewrite. You left out the defrocked doctor in the filthy, rat-infested basement, who extends his hand for the $1000.00 before he will pick up his unsterilized tools to abort the young woman. That would have made a better horror story. Your post illustrates why the pro-aborts are losing this battle. Sarah Palin would tell any of those women that there is help available, and that they don't have to kill their babies. Yes, there will be some sacrifice involved, but it will be worth it. She would tell them that the babies in their wombs are human beings who deserve the gift of life. She would counsel the first girl to report the incest and help her bring the perpetrator to justice. That's better than directing her to a "Reproductive Center" and then returning her to same incestuous environment again. She would get the therapy that such victims often need. Palin would tell her where to get help - places where she could live till she gives birth, could place her child for adoption, or could make plans to raise the child herself or with some help from willing friends. She would tell her how she could get financial help if she is less fortunate than Paris Hilton. She would assure her that she would never regret keeping her baby, but that many millions of women in this great country alone, regret killing their babies. She would help the second woman in the same way. The third could also find help, though no financial need is involved. That is being done across our country every day by volunteers who value women and their babies. It is less financially profitable for those volunteers than steering pregnant women into grandly named "Reproductive Rights Centers", but it is the right thing to do.
Dedicated to My Sisterhood of The Vag-Pants
My vagina and I had a discussion this morning. I proposed that we take turns voting from here on out. I recently discovered (thank you John McCain) that my vagina has been in charge of voting since I was 18. Who knew ? Not me. I think I deserve a shot at forging the future. As do all women. Here's a thought, sisters. Let's try voting from an educated, well-informed position. Not missionary. Or doggy-style.
My head and heart are for Obama or anyone that will put the current administration out on its keister and prevent its twin from taking possession of our country. I will not be writing in votes. With my children on the cusp of the future I have no time to vote symbolically. Because I am a patriot, I will not nader Obama.
Hence the discussion with my vag.
She on the one hand has spent the morning reading that she'll be voting for McCain/Palin. I'm embarrassed to say, evidently my vag enjoys being told what she'll be doing. If someone says all the vaginas of voting age in the nation are now for McCain, then she's there.
I on the other hand am pissed. It's time for me to take back what is rightfully mine which is the constituency of my gender. I'm quite certain Susan B Anthony did not fight for the rights of my snatch to vote pro-life.
But tell that to my vagina. She's had quite a ride through the years and even after much exercise and many escapades she's trim and slim and pretty. Unfortunately, she doesn't think for herself.
We haven't had a debate like this since that time she refused to progress beyond 2 centimeters. While the debate wasn't pro-life/pro-choice it was natural birth v c-section and the bitch clamped down and demanded drugs.
She's a sneaky bitch too sometimes. The one thing I dreamed about during all four pregnancies was to give birth silently, naturally, no sweat, no anguish--just the calm, centered, tidy ideal of Lamaze married with LeBoyer. Sweetly singing midwives would tend to me and I would be surrounded by love, flowers, candles and the pitter pat of gentle rain falling through the sunshine refracting rainbows across the birthing room to welcome each perfect newborn.
While my 3 surviving children (one of whom is deaf and has bi-polar disorder which I'm pretty sure counter-weights Palin's Down Syndrome) were born via c-section --the fourth and final child was delivered in my toilet when I was mid second trimester. Naturally. See what I mean??
I got back at the silly twat though. I decided my only option was to rear strong, well adjusted offspring with minds of their own. That showed her.
Back to the debate. Cerebrally I want to be part of the change that is happening and sweep the old dirt out of the White House. Vaginally, I am told that I must be manipulated by a scary, old white dude if I am to vote. Funny. I admired and respected him 8 years ago. Now he resembles some feral creature that is crazy. Republicans are shouting triumphantly, "HAH! Crazy! Crazy like a fox!!"
I think, "Crazy like an alzheimered fox. With drug induced dementia."
My vag, being shallow and tight loved the Republican slogan during the DNC -- "A Mile High and An Inch Deep."
I found it crude and distasteful.
I am horrified that McCain's biggest tiff with Obama is his rookie status and even more mortified that he of all candidates would select a person based upon genitalia. Hoping to win votes based upon genitalia. A Vice Presidential candidate who for the past 20 months has governed a state with a smaller population than Louisville. Smaller than Milwaukee. And yes. Less than half the population of Phoenix. Perhaps Cindy McC is thinking of buying Seward's Folly as an 8th house for John.
Before Palin was Alaska's governor she was mayor of Wasilla, a town of 8500 hearty folks. If this is how we measure executive experience I tell my vag--perhaps I could be VEEP. Afterall I was president of a dance company for years; serving a community of over half a million souls.
I tell my vag that McCain has committed the most vile of hypocrisies. For months, the Republican party and John McCain, have been absolutely hammering Obama as inexperienced, and unready. Now he picks a running mate who makes Barack look like an elder statesman. I find this form of hypocrisy galling, reprehensible and stunningly brash.
My vagina thinks differently. She says politicians say what they think they need to say to win votes, exploiting any advantage they can in the polls. Then they turn around and do exactly the one thing they've criticized others for doing if it works, again, to their political advantage.
My vag says Politics needs her to do the right thing. Oh. And she's decided to not go green, she says screw the environment and fuck the polar bears.
But I'm not sure. I can never really tell. Maybe. Maybe this time she really is faking it. I wonder if I should trust her? After all. She is the one who is most used to getting screwed over, fucked with and pissed on. (She doesn't like to talk about that last one. What!? It was college!!)
Everywoman has a right to decide for herself what her best options to furthering life are if she has become pregnant through sexual abuse of whatever nature.....of course she has to have the best possible counselling and even the possibility where an organisation would be devoted to looking after the next life, if not wanted by the mother or the biological family. IN other words the life conceived has to rely completely on mother giving them a chance to life. Only the woman after informed choice can make that decision - noone else.Very difficult as no law religious or political can cast that in concrete.
I hope that NARAL will do an ad - highlighting Palin's extreme positions on choice - with an emphasis on her no exceptions for rape or incest.
Tying this of course to McCain (McCoathanger) who selected her because of these views.
I am still amazed by the number of women who think McCain is pro-choice, probably due to the fact that he is portrayed as a "maverick".
Is McCain this desperate? Does he really think voters are this fucking stupid? Does he think the reason Hillary is so popular is not because of her positions, hard work, and accomplishments, but because she's a woman? We're smarter than that.
Palin is not a good choice for VP. She's a woman who doesn't believe in choice. She wants Creationism to be taught in schools. She thinks global warming is a myth and wants to drill for oil in Alaska. She's a psycho!
I am a pro-choice Republican; there are a lot of us. The President and Vice President cannot change Roe v Wade. I have marched the march, walked the walk, and was a life time Democrat - whether or not I agreed with anything else in the agenda, I voted for Democrats. I remember the days of back-room abortions and do not want to return to them.
But having said that, you really must remember that the Democrats stand for so much more, more regulations, more taxes, and a very weak defense.
I stopped being a one issue voter when I realized that in order to overturn choice it would have to be the Congress and enough pressure could be leveled to stop it. Or it would have to come from the Supreme Court. I believe it was Alito who said it would be difficult to over-turn because it is the law of the land.
So regardless of your party preference, we really need to stop being single issue voters. George Bush had a pro-life administration and it made no difference. So please look at other issues, I did and changed my party affiliation.
Other issues? How about this: Palin is against sex education. She thinks abstinence only works.
Palin does not agree with abortion but she said she would never legislate it, eh? That's an awful big risk you're taking, especially when you consider that Palin is a member of Feminists For Life. Here's an excerpt from a FFL newsletter:
“birth control counselling and abortion often indirectly contribute to the victim’s sense of shame, guilt, and blame for what is happening, since she is told to “take control” and “be responsible” for her “sexual activity,” implying that this situation is indeed within her power to control.”
According to Priya Jain, FFL is also anti-contraception. If NARAL really wants to stand up to women, they will do everything they can to expose Sarah Palin's anti-woman views as much as possible, not defend her.
How about this: Palin is against sex education. She thinks abstinence only works!
Could you link to the site where Palin said this!
Thanks.
Also could you list all the things Obama has done for women. This site gives all kinds of reasons not to vote for McCain but never lists what Obama has done for women.
I have to admit I like Sarah Palin. She is strong, ethical and says what she believes in. I admire that whether I agree with her or not. Not crazy about McCain or Obama. Neither is pro-women.
Here's where I got the newsletter:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/185637/985
You like Sarah Palin? Very well, that's your opinion. But she's not ethical; she's well on her way to becoming just as corrupt as Don Young and Ted Stevens. In fact, she's currently under investigation. Read about the scandal here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Public_Safety_Commissioner_dismissal
Today a trooper, tomorrow eight US attorneys!
And Sarah supports abstinence only education, according to this:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/01/1320417.aspx
Finally, as for Obama, his record in the Senate has earned him an A+ from both Planned Parenthood and NARAL, just like Hillary. McCain received an F from both groups. Maybe Obama hasn't done as much as Hillary, but I know he votes like someone who will fight for womens' rights.
Go to Project Vote Smart if you don't believe me.
ooookaaaayyyyy...and those are your thoughts on...software engineering?
Actually, never mind. Just delete my previous comment along with the one I'm typing right now.
Thanks for writing back. First I don't read Daily Kos as that is a hate site and they are not known for the truth. Could you give me a reputable link of Sarah Palin saying she does not believe in birth control. Sarah Palin said she would not legislate abortion. Why do you not believe her? She has worked hard to get where she is at and has a reputation of working with both parties. I could say I don't believe Obama's position as he changes his views depending on who he is talking to. He has proven that but I do believe he won't try to outlow abortion. Also I know NARAL gave him a 100% rating - what I don't know it why. No one seems to know. When I ask all I get is he has a 100% rating. If he had a great list of accomplishments I would think someone here could list them. As for Sarah Palin I admire her for working hard to get where she is at. I don't care if she is republican or democrat. She is not going to change Roe vs Wade and even if she tried we have a democratic congress - or don't you have faith a democratic congress would stand up for women. They don't have a very good track record of supporting the little people - men or women. Tearing down, smearing and lying about someone because they have different views is not ethical behavior. Democrats criticized the republicans for doing it and now are turning around and doing it. Sarah Palin is entitled to her views as long as she doesn't change the laws which she said she would not do. You have no more reason to think she is lying than you do Obama. I have seen Obama supporters say Obama is lying about where he stands on issues - that he has to lie to get elected. Do you think this is what he is doing? I phone banked for John Kerry and I never lied about what he stood for. I also never lied about George Bush (though the truth was bad enough). I was not raised to lie and smear people just because they held different views. Let's get past the hate.
Daily Kos is a hate site? Why? Because they supported Obama over Clinton?
Whatever. You want more links? Fine.
Here's the newsletter from the lunatic fringe Feminists For Life:
http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/1997/winter/Winter97-98.pdf
Here's what "The Nation" has to say about FFL:
I got similarly evasive answers when I asked why FFL didn't promote birth control, and when I asked if FFL considered the pill an "abortifacient." She did tell me that "birth control doesn't work" for swing-shift nurses because they lose track of their body clock--interesting, if true--or for teenagers, which I know to be false. "We just want to focus on meeting the everyday needs of women," she told me. But when I asked how the everyday needs of women with unwanted pregnancies would be served by encouraging them to bear children and place them for adoption, Foster didn't answer. Instead, she extolled the benefits of open adoption.
Here's the full article from "The Nation":
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050829/pollitt
And finally, here's an excerpt from broadsideonline.com:
“The new pro-choice/pro-life battle is over the right of Americans to use birth control and Feminists for Life has clearly taken its side. By not supporting contraception, Feminists for Life backs an agenda that has failed everywhere it is been tried.”
Here's the link:
http://broadsideonline.com/3-26-2007/opinion/untitled_002.htm
As a member of Feminists For Life, Sarah Palin is a danger to women's rights and to this country. And don't say we have a democratic congress; too many Democrats are pro-life and/or reactionary and will happily vote to confirm another Samuel Alito onto the Supreme Court.
Daily Kos is a hate site? Why? Because they supported Obama over Clinton?
Whatever. You want more links? Fine.
Here's the newsletter from the lunatic fringe Feminists For Life:
http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/1997/winter/Winter97-98.pdf
Here's what "The Nation" has to say about FFL:
I got similarly evasive answers when I asked why FFL didn't promote birth control, and when I asked if FFL considered the pill an "abortifacient." She did tell me that "birth control doesn't work" for swing-shift nurses because they lose track of their body clock--interesting, if true--or for teenagers, which I know to be false. "We just want to focus on meeting the everyday needs of women," she told me. But when I asked how the everyday needs of women with unwanted pregnancies would be served by encouraging them to bear children and place them for adoption, Foster didn't answer. Instead, she extolled the benefits of open adoption.
Here's the full article from "The Nation":
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050829/pollitt
And finally, here's an excerpt from broadsideonline.com:
“The new pro-choice/pro-life battle is over the right of Americans to use birth control and Feminists for Life has clearly taken its side. By not supporting contraception, Feminists for Life backs an agenda that has failed everywhere it is been tried.”
Here's the link:
http://broadsideonline.com/3-26-2007/opinion/untitled_002.htm
As a member of Feminists For Life, Sarah Palin is a danger to women's rights and to this country. And don't say we have a democratic congress; too many Democrats are pro-life and/or reactionary and will happily vote to confirm another Samuel Alito onto the Supreme Court.
I'm a historian of the Constitution. Not a street corner one--an actual, trained historian. And I can tell you right now that there's no way the Founders intended for government to be allowed to intervene in the daily decisions of individuals.
Conservatives and evangelicals are always screaming about how they want less government. I have a solution: Stop trying to regulate the private lives of individuals.
With regard to Palin's support for abstinence-only education, we have only to look upon her own household to see how well THAT works. But what I'm incensed about is the Christian Coalition's statement that Palin's daughter's pregnancy is "a family matter" and that they should be allowed their privacy.
Oh, really? So they get privacy but no one else does. Lovely. Nothing like hypocrisy, inconsistency, and the termination of freedom--which we should be a lot more concerned with than the termination of a bunch of fetal cells.
Could you give me a link to Palin's support for abstinence only education? Also I heard that NARAL gave Obama a 100% rating but I never see a list of what he has accomplished. Is there a list on the website listing his accomplishments?
Thanks
I already gave you a link to Palin's support for abstinence only education. If that's still not enough for you, here's an excellent article from feministing.com:
http://www.feministing.com/archives/010719.html
Someone on Daily Kos by the name of Helenann went on www.thomas.gov and gathered all the bills Obama has either sponsored or cosponsored from 2005 to 2007. Before you dismiss the link as a hate-filled page, actually paste the link, hit enter, and read it. There's nothing in the diary that suggests an attack on Hillary.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/21/164117/783?new=true
If you still won't read it, I'll sum it up in a nutshell:
-Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.
-Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.
-Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.
What's sad is the anti choicers will use Palin's daughters pregnancy as an excuse to further their anti choice agenda, to try and use it as a reason they think every pregnant teenager should 'chose life'. Nevermind that most girls in this country who find themselves with an unplanned pregnancy are not as fortunate and Bristol Palin and Jamie Lynn Spears. You won't see Bristol struggling financially and emotionally, standing in line at the wic and county assistance office. You won't see Bristol worrying that she won't be able to finish her education and have the life she wants. Hell, that girl won't even have to miss her prom as I'm sure mommy and daddy Palin will pay a nice nanny to raise that kid for her. Anti choicers should be ashamed to call themselves 'pro life'. The uterus nazis aren't pro life for teen girls whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted pregnancy. They are not pro life for rape victims whom they would like to further traumatize by forcing them to carry the product of their assaults. They're not pro life for women for whom pregnancy is a life threatening condition.
One more thing about Sarah Palin, if she wants privacy for her and her family then she should respect the privacy of other women.
Wow...a woman who thinks that a womans choice is not her own. Being Pro-choice simply means that a woman has the right to decide what is right for her body and the welfare of that fetus. Taking away that right would lead to "backyard abortions" in unfit, unsterile and unsafe conditions...there in turn increasing the need for hospitalizations (due to improper procedures)and once in the hospital(s)being questioned by authorities about where they received their procedure. Police officers who will be taken off the streets to question patients instead of being on the streets protecting communities from the child predators, rapists, arsonists and all the other criminals running amuck. I cannot believe that if Palin was put into a situation where she would have to use her right to decide, that she would be ok with being forced to keep an "unwanted" pregnancy just because she took that right away from every female, US resident...
I am amazed at you pro-choice people. Senator McCain chose a running mate who made two clear CHOICES! She Chose to have her baby even though she knew the baby would have Down's Syndrome. She CHOSE to stand by her daughter who has CHOSEN to have her baby and not get an abortion. Seems to me that you only accept the woman's CHOICE when it is abortion. That isn't pro-Choice. That is pro-abortion for all pregnancies. I am an adoptive mother. I praise any woman who chooses to give birth to her child. If she doesn't want the child there are thousands like myself who are more than happy to take the child and raise it. Are we to be denied too because the CHOICE wasn't abortion???
It is necessary to explore the deep convolutions of right-wing traditional conservatism. Sarah Palin ooposes abortion in case of incest. Did her older son, forced into the military, actually father Bristol's child? We should have a genetic test - a blue dress, in this case, is not required. Who is the real father of Bristol Palin's child? Daddy? Brother? This is why liberal feminists have been trying to push back the special privacy for families. Privacy fine, hipocracy no.
Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.
-Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.
-Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.
Obama has sponsored all these bills that have improved women's lives and we don't know anything about it? Why aren't you guys talking about it.
Seriously I am not going to read thru 570 bills. If NARAL gave Obama a 100% approval rating there must be a condensed list of what he accomplished for women. I am not trying to be difficult but can someone point me to the list? If you support Obama because of his stand on women's issues then you should be able to list them. It should not be difficult. Also we know John McCain employs more women in his campaign and pays them better. I don't think either McCain or Obama are great with women's issues. I was glad to see Obama spoke out against the attacks on Sarah Palin's family. That is a good leader. He needs to keep doing it because the attacks are making him look bad. Even people who are not political are talking about it.
Also I went to the link you posted about Sarah Palin - www.feministing.com/archives/010719.html. I don't see any quotes from Sarah Palin stating she is against birth control. I see people criticizing her and saying she is against birth control. I see women criticizing her for her choice to bring a down syndrome baby into the world - how ironic! I see people criticizing her because of her relgious beliefs. I do not see where she tried to get her beliefs into law. Do you have a link to an actual quote? Also if you are are talking about beliefs - whose to say Obama won't take the abortion decision out of women's hands. He said a women should have to talk to her husband or pastor first. See how any statement can be taken out of context and used against you. Let's not play dirty politics and smear someone just because she has an "R" after her name. After all the democrats already smeared Hillary Clinton for daring to run against aa man. I am not a Hillary Clinton fan but I hate to see anyone treated like she was for no good reason. Let's not forget that the DNC did not speak out against the abuse that was thrown at her. I spoke out against those smears just like I speak out against the smears against Sarah Palin. Isn't that what an organization like NARAL, who says they support women, should be doing?
I phone banked for John Kerry because I knew how bad Bush was for our Country but I never lied to the people I talked to.
The Palin story revolves around a mother's pride in the choice her daughter made. The Vice Presidential nominee said she was proud of her daughter for her decision to have this child. All the anti abortion groups have joined in, heaping praise on her for her decision. Let's emphasize the words "choice" and "decision."
Many of us remember the days when an unwed pregnant teenager would be hidden away in shame. When the baby came, sometimes the parents would raise it; other times it would be placed for adoption. But there was never anything to be proud of. People just did it because they didn't have any choice.
Then along came Roe v. Wade. It didn't force women to have abortions -- it just took the issue out of the back alleys and emergency rooms. By giving women a choice, they could now have a safe abortion or they could choose not to. By giving women a chance to say "no" to having a baby, it gave meaning to their decision to say "yes." Without a choice to say "no", her "yes" just becomes "have to."
This experience should make Gov. Palin an ardent supporter of Roe. Her daughter is doing what all pregnant teens did back in the 50's. They did it because they were stuck. Bristol Palin isn't stuck and for that she garners praise. If Gov. Palin is proud of her daughter's choice, then she has to be grateful for the fact that she could make that choice. Without Roe v. Wade no one will ever again be able to CHOOSE LIFE.
They can't have it both ways.
The real question is whether the decision was the daughter's choice or whether it was thrust upon her by her parents. We will never know.
I am shocked at the selection of Sara Palina a person with very extreme views. She is not only against Abortion but against Abortion in the case of rape and incest. What kind of Mind thinks like that?
What caring mother would abuse and force their 12/13 old child/daughter to have a baby in those circumstances.
She is against Sex Education and believes in Abstience yet proves within her own two parent family that it does work with her daughter.
There is definitely some Bolts missing with this woman or are we to believe that babies are to be by unplanned preganancies and shotgun weddings!
Does anyone else see the frightening lack of internal logic in the press' and Republicans' praise and applause over Ms. Palin's "decision" to carry her own most recent pregnancy to term? Ms. Palin is being lauded by anti-choice individuals and groups for giving birth to her youngest son despite knowing he had Down's Syndrome. This is certainly her decision to make, and whether someone else might have acted differently under the circumstances, Ms. Palin did what she thought best for her own particular situation. If, however, Sarah Palin were to get her "pit-bull"-headed way, she and all of us would be living in a country in which there is no decision, no choice, and every woman pregnant with a child must carry that pregnancy to term. No exceptions. Any heroism attributed to Ms. Palin for giving birth to her own youngest child is premised on the existence of a choice which Palin herself would do her level best to take away. Sarah Palin is apparently more than happy to take credit for making a "choice," while in the same breath arguing that decisions about pregnancies should be taken away from other women. Sarah Palin is in essence saying to American women; 'Look how noble I am to have decided to give birth to my "special needs" child, when I could have aborted him, but if you elect me, I will work my hardest to make sure that no other woman will be allowed to make a decision for herself about whether to continue her own pregnancy, or have a choice in the future or even be allowed to consider abortion as a safe legal option.' In the world in which Sarah Palin wants to create, she would not be a hero under these circumstances, just another 44 year old who had a baby with Down's Syndrome.
Here is a photo of her with a pro-choice group AND
their letter of complaint about her lack of support for
kids after they are born etc.
http://www.alaskaprochoice.org/
I just went on the website. Excellent source, Kelly.
no pro choice person i know condemns sarah palin for her choices. we condemn that she's trying to take choice away from other women.
no pro choice person i know condemns sarah palin for her choice. we condemn her for trying to take away other womens choices.
First and foremost I don't believe that McCain chose Palin. He wanted Lieberman but he was was told by other Republicans that they'd throw a tantrum at the RNC and would not confirm the nomination.
Palin was chosen by the party. They are afraid that the Obama/Biden ticket would win and chose a woman in the hopes of taking the Hillary voters. They honestly think that women are so stupid that Hillary's supporters would see boobs and vote for the ticket. WHAT AN INSULT!! Any woman who honestly supported Hillary for what she believed would NEVER vote for Palin.
Second - I disagree that McCain/Palin could not have Roe v Wade overturned. There is the possiblity of 3 upcoming changes to the Supreme Court... THAT makes the change possible.
Third - people are arguing about abortion. I myself do not have an issue with abortion. I've never needed to make the decision to have one, but I know others who have and it was agonizing for them. That said... the argument should not be about abortion - it should be about CHOICE!!!
Men & women in power should not be determining what I do with my uterus. They should not be making decisions regarding my right to birth control. They should not by trying to word laws so that birth control & the morning after pill are more difficult if not impossible to get. Most importantly they should not be forcing women who have been victimized to carry a child to term because they don't believe in what she's doing.
You know what... if you are religious and you are against abortion... DON'T HAVE ONE!! If you don't believe in abortion for other reasons... DON"T HAVE ONE!! That is your choice.
As an educated 39 year old woman who can think for herself... I will make my own.
I am a 53 year old. I've been around for free love, aids, Roe v Wade and I am a retired military officer. I can only tell you that I also believe in choice. The choice of abortion is the choice of some. The choice of life is the choice of others. I served my country so others could choose as many others have as well. I think it's wrong to desparage those men and women who's belief system is to choose life versus the choice of abortion. For me it is to choose the precious gift of life. I don't think anyone is telling you what you can do with your uterus, but that the choice of life is so precious to them.
So remember the choice of life is still a choice may not be your choice...but it is a choice.
I am a proud mother & Grandmother of 7 wonderful children, & 5 Grandchildren. But I am also very PRO-CHOICE!
I don't believe that anyone man or woman has the right to tell another woman what is right or wrong when it comes to her body!
the argument should not be about abortion - it should be about CHOICE!!!
Men & women in power should not be determining what I do with my uterus. They should not be making decisions regarding my right to birth control. They should not by trying to word laws so that birth control & the morning after pill are more difficult if not impossible to get. Most importantly they should not be forcing women who have been victimized to carry a child to term because they don't believe in what she's doing.
You know what... if you are religious and you are against abortion... DON'T HAVE ONE!! If you don't believe in abortion for other reasons... DON"T HAVE ONE!! That is your choice.
As an educated 37 year old woman who can think for herself... I will make my own.
At the end of the day the USA needs to pick its self up and it needs a president better then Bush,
McCain is only going to continue to do what Bush has started and that is bring America down.
PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE LAST 8...
I hope & pray Obama will be the next president.
It's unfortunate that people sometimes vote based on sex or race instead of the values being represented.
PRO-CHOICE
PRO OBAMA
Palin+Feminists for Life = NO birth control?
by loserboy
Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 04:02:11 PM PDT
The minute I heard about Feminists for Life, that Palin had 5 children, and that she was opposed to ALL forms of abortion, she immediately reminded me of a long-time friend of mine who is heavily involved in the pro-life/anti-choice (depending on your politics) movement. I only had time to do a little bit of digging, but what I'm finding is VERY alarming. The Feminists for Life website really avoids talking about birth control, but the 10 minutes of digging that I did, unearthed a few little juicy tidbits...
loserboy's diary :: ::
http://www.feministsforlife.org/...
From page 16 of the above newsletter
“birth control counselling and abortion often indirectly contribute to the victim’s sense of shame, guilt, and blame for what is happening, since she is told to “take control” and “be responsible” for her “sexual activity,” implying that this situation is indeed within her power to control.”
http://www.thenation.com/...
From The Nation:
I got similarly evasive answers when I asked why FFL didn't promote birth control, and when I asked if FFL considered the pill an "abortifacient." She did tell me that "birth control doesn't work" for swing-shift nurses because they lose track of their body clock--interesting, if true--or for teenagers, which I know to be false. "We just want to focus on meeting the everyday needs of women," she told me. But when I asked how the everyday needs of women with unwanted pregnancies would be served by encouraging them to bear children and place them for adoption, Foster didn't answer. Instead, she extolled the benefits of open adoption.
http://broadsideonline.com/...
“The new pro-choice/pro-life battle is over the right of Americans to use birth control and Feminists for Life has clearly taken its side. By not supporting contraception, Feminists for Life backs an agenda that has failed everywhere it is been tried.”